Episode 36 Two Family House and Be Kind, Rewind

Dave & Christopher review "Two Family House"-- a 2000 American drama/romance set in the 1950s New York City at the intersection of the Italian and Irish parts of town.  The Sundance Film Festival award-winning movie stars Michael Rispoli, Kathrine Narducci, and  Kelly Macdonald and was written and directed by Raymond De Feliita

Dave & Christopher also review "Be Kind, Rewind," a 2008 buddy comedy/drama starring Jack Black, Yasiin Bey (fka "Mos Def") Danny Glover, Mia Farrow and Melonie Diaz and directed by Michel Gondry ("Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind")

"If You Were Here" © writers: Tom Bailey, Alannah Currie, and Joe Leeway performed by J.Christopher Thomas

"Ride Captain Ride "© writers: Mike Pinera, Frank "Skip" Konte  performed by Blues Image

Transcript

Two Family House

SPEAKER_08 0:03

Hello and welcome to Let's Go Get Some Ice Cream. The weekly film for theater podcast hosted by me Dave and my co-host Christopher. We've worked together for several years at a small town movie theater, and ever since I've started a lot of movies that have seen thousands over the years. We provide unique perspectives on some level of movies everybody's seen, and some of them. But sure. If you're looking for a good movie or two to ensure that you've come to the right place, let's get started.

SPEAKER_06 0:31

Ladies and gentlemen, Buddy Vesalo.

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He wants to have his own house, run his own business.

SPEAKER_06 0:38

Let him get it out of the system. What if it doesn't? Just tell that I live upstairs. Downstairs, Buddy's Tavern. You want bar?

SPEAKER_04 0:47

Hey, hey, hey, come on, pick that up. Where are you at? What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Oh, stop. So sorry. Oh good versus that I love you. Lionsgate Films presents. Working on the bar. We're gonna open next week. Quite a showman, buddy. You do things in a big way, huh? A story for anyone who has ever had a dream.

SPEAKER_04 1:12

Things will get better.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

If they don't. So what? Two Family House.

SPEAKER_08 1:23

Uh, Two Family House. And you asked me why I picked it, because you had picked the movie we'll talk about here in a little bit. Um Please Kind. Please, yeah. And I was thinking, okay, you're going to a smaller film. But I'd always liked Two Family House. It's like a movie that always had a charm to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:42

Uh you were asking me how I couldn't remember how I it might have been I was watching Siskel and Niebert. They're at the movies, and they might have uh previewed it. Oh, okay. And I and I was like, oh, it seemed intriguing. And that's when me and my wife got to go to the movies a lot. And uh we'd always go to dinner in a movie, and we picked that movie. As you know from watching it, there wasn't a lot of big stars. They were soon to be collaborators on the Sopranos most of the time.

SPEAKER_10 2:08

Was this before or after the Sopranos?

SPEAKER_08 2:10

Before.

SPEAKER_10 2:11

Before, okay.

SPEAKER_08 2:12

And uh Michael Rispoli, who plays the main character, Buddy uh Rivallo. Um and he's a guy who he's in the service, he's a crooner, he wants to be, you know, he gets out, and there's a famous celebrity. They mentioned who the celebrity was at the time and says, Hey, when you're out, come see me and I'll give you a contract. A celebrity crooner? He he was like a I don't remember that part. Uh he's like a tonight show kind of guy where he would Oh, like a host, like a talk show host. Right. And he was telling Buddy, hey, come see me. I can get you probably a recording contract. And Buddy was excited, but his uh wife or his fiance at the time convinces him like it's either me or that.

SPEAKER_10 2:55

Yeah, did she say either her or was she talking about their life together? Like we have to build this. Right. It's it's it's kind of both though. That's kind of a pipe dream. We need to really do this more.

SPEAKER_08 3:06

It's it's both it's both though.

SPEAKER_10 3:08

It was okay, yeah. Like I said, I don't remember the exact details. I only saw it once, but I mean it makes sense to me that especially during that time, it would be more about, hey, look, you cut you should you should get with me, we should get married, we should start a business, have security, have a family, all that stuff about you being a singer. That's nice, but that's kind of a pipe dream.

SPEAKER_08 3:29

Right. She didn't even want to give him a chance, like, hey, okay, let's give this, let's let you see where this goes, maybe, and then we'll if not, then come back. She didn't tell him that. She gave him an ultimatum.

SPEAKER_10 3:40

Right.

SPEAKER_08 3:41

It's either me and this your family friends, or it's that. Or it's that, yeah. I mean, who does that? I mean, I'm sure um I have to put it in context because back then things were different compared to today.

SPEAKER_10 3:54

And now, I again, I don't remember the details because I only saw it the one time it was really good, I have to say, but was it one of those things where he already had the business? Or no, he was just getting out.

SPEAKER_08 4:08

In order to appease her, he went to whatever his family and friends, they worked at some factory. Okay. And in the course of that, he hated it because he missed out on his dream. Right. So in as we see in the movie, he attempts all these endeavors, these entrepreneurships of businesses that really don't work, unfortunately. But he, you know, he wants to be his own man. He goes, I'm in America. I want to, you know, I don't want to just be a slave here to to some guy to grind.

SPEAKER_10 4:39

Right, have a box all the time.

SPEAKER_08 4:40

Right. I want to have something that says me, it's mine, right? But his wife loved their little niche and their family, and that was perfect to her. And here they are staying at her family's house, right? And right.

SPEAKER_10 4:53

Were we clear that they're Italian family?

SPEAKER_08 4:55

We didn't, yeah, let's clarify that too. They were you know, Italian.

SPEAKER_10 4:59

The that culture, that whole culture of all of us together as a community.

SPEAKER_08 5:03

Right. Yeah. So in the movie, Buddy tries all these endeavors, unfortunately don't make it. Then one day he stumbles upon a house in the Irish neighborhood. Yeah. And, you know. Oh, right. And he is able to buy it because the owner passed away and he gets a really good deal. Right. The wife reluctantly is like, okay, I guess. And she's like, I'll pease him again until this fails, and then we'll go back. Right. But Buddy has a vision of this that has two stories. One they'll live up top, and down below, he wants to have his own little bar and tavern called Buddy's Place. Right. You know, and he wants to be able to sit there and be able to croon his guest as he serves them, you know. And his wife's like, okay, whatever, buddy. And this is where we encounter there's tenants already there who won't leave, and uh married couple, the husband, an older Irish gentleman who quite drunk a lot, right, and the wife who's pregnant.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

Hey! Hey, yourself! Would you mind keeping it down? We're trying to sleep here. Go sleep in your own house, you fat bastard. This is my own house. I'm the new owner, Vasolo. Oh, you zoolo! You know the one that sent me this this despicable letter telling me to get out. That was my lawyer. Your lawyer was it? Hey, hey, hey, hey, Voluni, you and your lawyer come down here and kiss my ass, eh?

SPEAKER_08 6:38

So Buddy feels trapped, like I can't kick him out just yet. I'll give him some time.

SPEAKER_06 6:43

I'll give him a couple days and then the point is I'm looking for you to vacate. I don't want to make anything too uncomfortable for you, so it doesn't have to be right this minute. A couple of days will be fine, maybe even a week.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

Aren't you the generous soul, Mr. Vizallo?

SPEAKER_06 6:58

I'm just trying to be fair here.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

Let me tell you something. The fact that you bought this fire trap from that prick mahony tells me, above all, you're stupid. And if you think you're gonna come up here and throw me out, you're even dumber than you look. I got a wife in there expecting a kid. So, in spite of your stupidity, I'm sure you'll be able to see that I'm not exactly in the mood to be thrown out on the street by some dim wit two-bit Italian who fancies himself a restaurant.

SPEAKER_08 7:29

They have no They don't they're not gonna leave. Yeah, and the wife's no intention McDonald, right? They have no intention, yeah. Kelly McDonald. Who one of her first roles, maybe? I don't know. Close. I was gonna say because train spotting somewhere in there, but yeah, Kelly McDon's still young and a newer actress. Right. Yes, she's in it. Um she plays the the the wife of the it's his name's O'Neary.

SPEAKER_10 7:56

And um so he's a definitely older guy, seems like a drunk, a real lout, kind of like a wife beater type dude.

SPEAKER_08 8:04

Right. And we learned later on, I'm not trying to get ahead of ourselves, but that she got the reason she is with her husband is because her dad, they were friends, and they got together. She was quite young, so yeah.

SPEAKER_10 8:18

Well, because her dad what set her up, what set her his friend up with his daughter, his underage daughter, basically.

SPEAKER_08 8:25

Basically, yeah. And I guess like we were talking about culturally, you understand your same cultures, right? And they were in the Irish part of New York, these are in the boroughs. You had the Irish, you had all different kinds of uh cultures in those boroughs.

SPEAKER_10 8:39

Right. And her dad probably thought, My friend, this guy, is maybe he's got a business or he's doing something, so therefore, hey, marry my daughter, because back then women couldn't, or they were encouraged to do things on their own, or whatever. Right. You have to be with a man.

SPEAKER_08 8:54

Oh no.

SPEAKER_10 8:55

Oh, thank you. Um so yeah, so hook up with my daughter, here she is, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_08 9:00

Right. Um, so that's the part of the story, that's kind of the beginning and the midpoint. Right. This is where we catch up, and Estelle's not happy, and she just really wants to go back to her life. Yeah. And Buddy just tells her flat out at one point, like, don't you want your own? He goes, and he's just sitting there pleading with her, like, this is what a you know, America's about. Right. And she listens, kind of like, okay, sure, whatever, like a little tap on the head, like, but he's like, she doesn't get it, you know. I mean, I I would think you and I can agree, I think a lot of people can agree that here's a man who wants something.

SPEAKER_10 9:37

Right. I mean he actually does something too. It's even more important because a lot of people want stuff, but they don't do anything.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

Right.

SPEAKER_10 9:45

He's actually got the building as far as I remember, and he was working on it, like doing whatever repairs or whatever.

SPEAKER_08 9:51

He worked at the factory by day on his weekends. You get him and his friends, they would sit there and fix up the tavern and get it ready to go. Right. Um he does end up eventually. Well, Mary, the tenant above, the Irish Mary McD uh Kelly McDonald and Jim, when they're trying to kick them out, the baby comes out. And this is not to ruin the movie when they had the baby, it's it's biracial. Right. And that's a shock, of course, back then, because obviously it's not Mr. O'Neary's baby. Right. So Mr. O'Neary looks in shock, obviously, of course, anyone would, right, and leaves.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Yeah. That's me. Something is in the kitchen of the home in which I was born.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

You ready to meet Daddy?

SPEAKER_06 10:46

A little dirty, I guess, huh?

SPEAKER_07 10:49

Dirty.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

You may detect vaguely quizzical looks on the faces of those who were present. That's because it was immediately apparent that in spite of having been born of two white parents, I seem to have been made of darker material.

SPEAKER_08 11:16

And now Mary's left to care, and Buddy's like, okay, I'll give you a little more time, but you're gonna have to, you know, eventually he does kick her out. Right. You know, and he tries to go on with his life. Estelle still kicking and pushing against against it all. Right. But there's something that draws Buddy because he feels like he does well, Mary tells him, I'm getting a little sidetracked here, but that she'll go to her sister's and then he finds out that sister won't take her because of the b the mix between the baby and her. So now she has to go live in a not so nice part of town.

SPEAKER_10 11:58

Right.

SPEAKER_08 11:59

So Buddy who has a heart and conscience decides, hey, I can't let you do that. And he does really, I mean, a very noble thing. Does he have to? No. But he I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

There's just something Yeah. He's a good guy.

SPEAKER_08 12:15

Yeah, he is. And in spite of everything, I mean, he he sees the culture, and there's little things you know that are said inappropriately, but it's part of a story and it's I'm sure a lot of history, and that's unfortunate, that's some truth there.

SPEAKER_10 12:30

Right.

SPEAKER_08 12:31

You know, you have to watch the movie for what it is, not put more on it.

SPEAKER_10 12:35

Right. I mean, you're talking about the racial slurs. Sure. Yeah. So the thing of it with that is that I I know that people are jarred by them, but then again, it's like you said, you have to watch it for what it is. And also you kind of have to grow up too. Thank you. Because that's reality. So if you if you're like, oh, clutch the pearls, how dare they say those things. Well, people say those things all the time. Right. They did then, they do now. Yeah. That's life. Get over it and move on. So yeah, that's your just I wanted to point that out.

SPEAKER_08 13:06

Thank you. That's exactly my point. I mean, uh, it's a movie. It's meant for me, it's to entertain and maybe to educate you too.

SPEAKER_10 13:12

To see, you know, I I those communities are isolated. I mean, it um yeah, so the Italian community, I'm not saying they all are, every single Italian person is, but there is some of that in the Italian community, there's some of that in the Asian community, there's some of the black community, all communities. Every community has elements that they want to stick to themselves and they don't trust outsiders. That's not a new thing at all.

SPEAKER_08 13:35

I just I'm not trying to get yes, there's things in movies and culture and all that, but I've like I said, don't put it in context of today's society. Look at it for what it is. Hopefully, that's the point. We've moved on, we can grow from that. But again, I'm not trying to I'm digressing. I just want to get the story, like you said, don't be shocked. Buddy helps Mary out and she gets her a place, a little apartment, and that goes on. He actually and he really wants to ramp up the the uh the tavern. So now he works two shifts, yeah, right? Because Estelle still keeps hoping that you know there's little things, and then there's one point where Buddy gets a letter from the bank and tells him that he's overexpending himself, overextending himself.

SPEAKER_10 14:21

Oh, did he get that letter?

SPEAKER_08 14:22

I don't remember that. He did, but Estelle got it first. Right. That so she goes to the bank and tells him, and he's like, Oh, well tells the bank, the bank tells her that or whatever, or something.

SPEAKER_10 14:32

She's meeting with that guy.

SPEAKER_08 14:34

Well, he's a bank manager, and he goes, Hey, your expenses are exceeding your money, and if you don't watch out, you're gonna run out of savings within like a month and a half. Right. And she's like, and it's sad because uh again, I don't want to give away too much, you should watch the movie because other this plays a big part in the rest of the movie. But going back to Buddy, he still he works two shifts to help maintain two households, basically, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_10 15:02

Right. And they show him like you know, working hard, little montages or whatever of him working at the plan or whatever and getting out super early in the morning.

SPEAKER_08 15:11

And there's one scene I really enjoy in the movie, it's kind of poignant in my opinion, because Buddy gets drunk, him and his best friend go and he's supposed to go home, and instead he goes to Mary's place and in his stupor, he's talking to her, and she's like, you know, Mr. Vasolo, if you think that's gonna happen, and he's all right, I'm leaving. He goes downstairs and in his haste he grabs him and breaks her window and and he's just basically pleading her, all I want to do is talk. I just want someone to listen to me. You know, he doesn't it's not about the physical hooking up with her or whatever.

SPEAKER_10 15:50

Right.

SPEAKER_08 15:50

I just need someone to listen. My wife no one listens to me.

SPEAKER_10 15:54

Right.

SPEAKER_08 15:54

I can sit here and do all these things, but no one just listens. And sometimes you know this, and every guy knows this. We just want to be heard, right, understood just for a moment.

SPEAKER_10 16:04

Right.

SPEAKER_08 16:05

That gives us the encouragement to keep going. Right. Because if you don't have that, what's the point?

SPEAKER_10 16:10

Right. Right? Yeah, and his his wife Estelle is not um very not. Every time he has a conversation with her, it's about how he's doing something wrong.

SPEAKER_08 16:17

Right. Never supportive.

SPEAKER_10 16:18

Right.

SPEAKER_08 16:19

And married in those little brief moments, there's something a little inkling, right? And then she does. She slowly gives him encouragement. And he I know through the course, to me that scene, I don't want to give it all away because I think, again, watch the movie, but very poignant. I liked it a lot. And it turns a tide, so to speak, uh, in the movie itself, too. Right. He starts to see his people, and like there's kind of a let's just be blunt, negative connotation with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

And he sees Mary and it's like the uplifting, and uh, you know, there's supportive and he can have fun with her and he could be him, right?

SPEAKER_08 16:58

With no judgment.

SPEAKER_10 16:59

Right. Right. She's into his singing, right?

SPEAKER_08 17:02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_10 17:03

Yeah. So he sings to her and she loves it.

SPEAKER_08 17:05

Oh yeah. You know, and then there's even a kinship with her little boy, right? Mm-hmm. And it's it's really nice to watch that evolve throughout a story.

SPEAKER_10 17:16

All these kind of well, not all these people, but at least the two people who need someone who both have lost someone in a way. Like she's lost her husband because he dumped her, and then he doesn't really have his wife's support, so he's kind of like they kind of were drawn to each other.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Right. They're kind of uh they fill gaps. That was from Rocky. Sure.

SPEAKER_10 17:37

They're outside gaps.

SPEAKER_08 17:39

I thought they're outsiders to their like him, even in his own community. That's a good point. He's an outsider. Yes. Because everyone, you know, even uh is it Vincent Pastori, who played Big Pussy in Sopranos' right uh supporteza he owns a tavern.

SPEAKER_10 17:54

He owns a tavern, right? In more in the Italian neighborhood, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 17:58

But even him and he goes along with the community, like, oh hey buddy, and you know, and it's like no one wants to give him encouragement. They all want to go with Estelle and like, oh, why you if it ain't broke, why you trying to fix him? It's like, but he's telling everyone, hey, I just want my own thing.

SPEAKER_10 18:11

Right. I don't want to be part of the community and just be facing.

SPEAKER_08 18:14

I mean, I do, but I want to have my own thing.

SPEAKER_10 18:17

Right. You know? Right. And they just, yeah, they're just they're stuck. And to be fair and to be contrarian a little bit, I mean, people being part of their community, I mean, you could spin this movie a different way and have it look like Estelle is actually in the right, you know. Depending on, I mean, because pe people being a part of their own community, there's nothing really wrong with that per se, as long as you're not like xenophobic necessarily. Even that's kind of like not necessarily a deal breaker, but I can see how people would want to like be supported by their own community. Now, depending on that time, I'm not great with history, but I know there was a time when Italians were persecuted in America, and so I could see how being a part of your community and sticking with your own was like a comfort, you know. So you could spin it that way too.

SPEAKER_08 19:04

Well, we said that earlier with the different boroughs of different cultures, because all of them had their little, like you said, right?

SPEAKER_10 19:10

But they have their communities for a reason because they're persecuted.

SPEAKER_08 19:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 19:13

Yeah. Um so if you go outside of your community, you're like, that's a risk. That's like, oh, you're you're going out there with those Irish people or whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_08 19:20

But as the story goes, well, for Buddy and Mary, there is a connection. And I'm getting to the point where, again, I'm not trying to get ahead of myself or ruin the movie, but there's a point where Buddy has a sit-down with Estelle and friends, and they're having a meeting, and Buddy, and this was what struck me in the movie because Estelle confronts him about his indiscretion. And what struck me out of all of that isn't because she admits to him in their life together, even because then when they do get intimate, he has she tries to keep him quiet. There's a scene there, and you know, but she tells him, I don't really like that. So and she really readily admits that if you want to have relations, I have I'll don't care. I don't want you to have it with her because she's been with some black dude. Right. Right. And he quizzically is like looking at her amazed, like, so wait a minute, he even asks you, so you don't have a problem that I cheated on you, it's just that I cheated with because of that. Right. And I'm and he's like, I don't blame you for being upset. I'd be upset if the you know, same thing. Right. And he's just bewildered by that. So you don't mind that I can go out, you know, and every guy would be like, oh, okay, sweet, you know, but he did he wants again, it goes back to what he wants. I want the family, I want the unit. I don't want to have to cheat on you. I never thought of that. Just with all this negativity, there's one person that just for a brief moment understood me and under understands me. Right. But you know, he knows he did wrong and he wants to do right by it. But when he sees that, it's just and hears that.

SPEAKER_10 20:54

It's like, why am I why am I trying to be a part of this community? This is what the community is now. Why am I trying to be a part of this? Right. That's when you can see him like I'm out. Like I think it's the moment where he's just we're skipping ahead too, because there's a point where she finds out he's cheating.

SPEAKER_08 21:09

Well, he he discovers Mary. I mean, I'm sorry, she discovers she, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 21:13

Estelle discovers that he's cheating with Mary.

SPEAKER_08 21:16

He's doing two shifts, and one of her friends goes, Oh, it must be, but you know, but he gets off at whatever time, and that's when Estelle realizes, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_10 21:24

Oh, wait, he doesn't come home to me at that time. Right, we're he doesn't come home until two hours later or whatever. Right.

SPEAKER_08 21:28

And so she does her little investigation, finds, and then discovers Mary, and that's when Mary tells, I saw your wife's what? And that's when they have that. Yes, we skipped ahead, and that's when they have their little meeting.

SPEAKER_10 21:41

Right. Um And then uh there the symbolic thing that I remember was that she confronts Buddy in this tavern. It might be the one that Big Pussy.

SPEAKER_08 21:51

It was a diner.

SPEAKER_10 21:51

Diner, okay.

SPEAKER_08 21:52

It's their little diner they go to.

SPEAKER_10 21:53

And then all the people in the community are there. No one else, just all the Italian people that are in the community are there. And they're all like watching him as he comes, like they all know what it's gonna be about.

SPEAKER_08 22:03

They're very judgmental, but they all want him to basically surrender to them.

SPEAKER_10 22:08

To rejoin, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 22:09

Yeah, like okay, admit you were wrong, say you won't do it again, so we can all just be our one bit.

SPEAKER_10 22:14

And they've got a little bit like a judgmental thing, like the first people he walks through, they're kinda like talking, like they won't they won't say anything to him, but they're you see him like whispering or whatever.

SPEAKER_08 22:23

Yeah, and then it's the other ones and his buddy who always looking at him.

SPEAKER_10 22:27

Yeah, they're not saying, like, hey, how's it going? Good to see you, they're just like staring. Right. Like, you need to like make up for this. Right. And we're gonna all watch you or shame you or whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 22:36

Well, he didn't even says to her, can't we why'd you do it here? Why can't we just talk, you know, you and me? Right. And she oh it's our friends.

SPEAKER_10 22:43

This is your community. What's the problem? Right.

SPEAKER_08 22:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 22:46

But there's little things I didn't marry all them, I married you. Right.

SPEAKER_08 22:49

And he does basically say that. Um but it's a very I think it's a small movie, but I've always thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

SPEAKER_10 23:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 23:01

Um I think the roles, the people who play it are perfect. I remember reading something with Roger Ebert because he was talking about Micro Vespoli. He said he was perfect for that role. You mean these people fit all of that?

SPEAKER_10 23:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 23:15

Really you want to say it's a I think it's a great movie. It's one of my hidden gems that I've I discovered, and yeah, I want to pass it along to other people to I think you should see it. It's a really great film. It was fun going down to watch that movie again because it took me down memory lane of when me and Anna used to go to those movies when independent was the thing, right? I didn't do it because I was trying to fit in. It was just great to explore, see, discover new movies, and that was like one of many.

SPEAKER_10 23:41

Yeah. So let me read this real quick uh reception. Uh I don't I know you don't care about Rotten Tomatoes necessarily, but two family houses, an approval rating of 89% based on 35 reviews, which is pretty good. Says Roger Ebert awarded the film three and a half stars out of four. That's really good. Uh in his review, he wrote, Michael Respoli gets one of the roles of a lifetime. I would say that's true.

SPEAKER_08 24:04

That's true, 100%.

SPEAKER_10 24:05

Uh says he's the kind of guy we all know who's unwilling to accept the hand that life or his wife has dealt him. His victory may be small in the great scheme of things, but it is satisfying.

SPEAKER_08 24:14

Right.

SPEAKER_10 24:15

He concluded Two Family House is about a guy doing someone a good turn when they need it. It does need the uplifting apparatus to pay it forward. It may not be as commercial, but I suspect it may strike deeper in the hearts of its viewers. That's what it did for me.

SPEAKER_08 24:29

I also, the director, uh you can read his name. De Folida.

SPEAKER_10 24:34

De Folida, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 24:35

Uh he based the movie.

SPEAKER_10 24:37

He wrote Raymond De Folida on his uncle or something like that.

SPEAKER_08 24:40

Yeah, his uncle. So there's there's a truth in this story. Yeah. So his uncle may have abandoned, not necessarily abandoned, I shouldn't say that's a bad choice of word, but he left his community for something else and developed his own.

SPEAKER_10 24:53

It says it won the audience award at the Sundance Film Festival, too. I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_08 24:57

Sundance was a big, it's uh for independent.

SPEAKER_10 24:59

I know the Sundance Audience Award. I don't know what that was. I mean like the crowd prefers it, but the critics don't, or necessarily, or well critics did, obviously.

SPEAKER_08 25:08

But I think but at the Sundance, the the audience does must be a big deal. Yes, it is. I have always wanted to go. I don't know about now, I think it's probably overcommercialized, but yeah. It would be fun to go just to see different things.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

Where is that that's in Sundance is in Montana, Wyoming, something like that? I think you're right. It might be Montana. It's not anyway.

SPEAKER_08 25:29

But yeah, we digress. But uh yes, again, when you asked me, and you like you said, when we picked our the other movie you picked, uh just made me think of this movie, and I was like, that'd be fun to share it.

SPEAKER_10 25:40

Yeah. Kind of a a good movie, but not super publicized, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 25:45

No, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_10 25:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 25:47

But I'm thoroughly glad I discovered it.

SPEAKER_10 25:49

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 25:49

And I'm hoping now our listeners can discover it as well, because I think it should be seen.

SPEAKER_10 25:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 25:57

That's the thing. I think I've helped not give myself credit, but you discover I've helped you discover certain movies.

SPEAKER_10 26:04

I was just gonna say, I think, um as far as like recommending this movie, uh most of the movies you recommend, I usually am not like usually right about the recommendations. So this one was like especially good. I wouldn't say it's up there with um Station Agent. That's the gold standard. That because that one like completely took me by surprise. He recommended Station Agent when that came out with uh what's the guy the actor's name? Peter Dinklage. Peter Dinklage. Um and I thought, no, that that this this is just not gonna be good. I don't know why you would recommend this to me. And that was one of the best movies I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_08 26:41

And uh and we should definitely do that on a future podcast, we will definitely do that.

SPEAKER_10 26:46

This movie is right up there with that. I didn't not that I didn't expect anything from this because I had never heard about it, frankly. But you didn't really give me a lot of um what's the word? You didn't give me a lot of backstory on it. I didn't we were talking about it in a previous episode about how people say, Oh, this movie's the best thing ever, since it's sliced bread, then you watch it, you go, oh if you just said, here's the movie, boom. I was like, okay, I'll check it out. I have no expectations. I watched it and I got to take in the full message of it, and it's like, oh, that's really good. That's a good movie.

SPEAKER_08 27:14

So and that's what I'm hoping to pass on with this with our podcast.

SPEAKER_10 27:19

Yeah. Things like that. So I I would recommend it. Oh, I highly recommend it. I got recommended it, and I would pass it forward.

Be Kind, Rewind

SPEAKER_10 27:33

Hey, sorry to interrupt, but if you're enjoying the reviews, please take a second to like, rate, and subscribe to our podcast. We'd really appreciate it. And now back to the reviews. Uh, so the next one is uh that we wanted to recommend was Beekine Rewind. At least I want to recommend it.

SPEAKER_09 27:52

Uh rewound this tape all over and it's blank.

SPEAKER_10 27:55

Really?

SPEAKER_03 27:56

This video don't work. Yours looks like yours.

SPEAKER_05 28:00

Look, look, look! Oh the tapes and blank! It's the TV, Mike. Show me how you Why is it doing that? Does that happen when you do that? What is wrong with Why is it doing that when you do that? Remagnetized! You erased these tapes! It's you.

SPEAKER_07 28:19

You gotta find new tapes. I got a better idea. Follow me. When you're walking down the street and you see a little ghost, what you gonna do about ghostbusters? What what is that? That's the Ghostbusters theme song. No. I'm pretty sure it is.

SPEAKER_05 29:17

Why do I have to listen? You have to keep up with ambitions.

SPEAKER_07 29:28

Yeah, yeah. It's at the beginning of the table.

SPEAKER_09 29:31

We erased it.

SPEAKER_05 29:40

We should be coming on video. Run okay.

SPEAKER_08 30:06

I'm gonna ask you, like you asked me, why did you pick that movie?

SPEAKER_10 30:10

Uh it always stuck with me, and I can't describe why, but I I just I remember when I watched it, it was like a one-of-a-kind movie.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 30:18

And like in in all the movies I've ever seen in my life, they all fit into a certain category. And they're they're good or bad, whatever. But this movie is like on its own little planet. It's like it's there's no movie like it that I could think of.

SPEAKER_08 30:33

It's quirky, but it's so enjoyable and fun.

SPEAKER_10 30:36

It's completely random. I mean, I'll the the Cliff Note synopsis is there's a guy who has a VHS, he's a V VHS cassette rental place. Right. Well past the time when those things are used. It was on the we're already into DVDs now. They were just coming in, right? Right. Um and so he's kind of already outdated, and he's his business model is on the way out. And there's a freak accident that happens that destroys his inventory, and his co his workers that he's got hired to work for him. Well, one worker and the other guy's a random guy from the neighborhood, really.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Right.

SPEAKER_10 31:14

In order the way they decide to fix the fact that his inventory is destroyed, they decide to act out all the movies that he film them. And film them and then sell them to people. That premise is so ridiculous because you know, me being the guy that always wants to see truth and try to figure stuff out, it's like you just can't. You just can't because it makes no sense. But there's that that's the appealing part of it. It's just it's nuts. Like you you like me and you and I can't act out a movie, slap a crappy label on it, and rent it out to people and expect them to be like cool with that. People would be they would sue us in their oblivion. Right, pirates, whatever, right? Yeah. But in this movie, it's like it's a magical, it takes on its magical essence at that point.

SPEAKER_08 31:55

It's quirky, yeah, and off kilter, but it's perfect. I mean, I think I know you and I went to go see it. That's I remember watching it. I again, what the two main leads in the movie are Most Deaf and Jack Black, and Danny Glover's also. Danny Glover's who plays the supporting, and then Mia Farrow. Yeah. Right. And then Melanie Diaz, who I think that was like her start in movies. I've you know, you see her here and there, but that was really the first time I'd ever seen her as an actress. Yeah. But yeah, it was really quirky. I remember we were again when we went to go see it, you know. Why? Just because it looked intriguing. Probably the two leads, most deaf, who had come into his own by then, and of course Jack Black.

SPEAKER_10 32:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 32:36

So you're like, okay, and then probably Danny Glover, his name.

SPEAKER_10 32:40

Yeah, I honestly don't remember why we went to see it. I mean, we saw a lot of movies, like all the time for no reason.

SPEAKER_08 32:44

So sometimes we watch double features.

SPEAKER_10 32:47

Maybe that's what it was. It's like, like I said, there's a lot of different genres of movies. This doesn't really fit any of them necessarily completely nicely. It's kind of a comedy, kind of it's got a little bit of drama to it. Yeah. It's got fantasy, definitely, because that's that premise is nuts.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

So yeah, it just kind of like it it has its own little um niche or niche, right?

SPEAKER_10 33:12

Yeah. So um, and by the way, I was gonna say this is as an aside, related aside. Uh Most Deaf, I think I forget what his name is now.

SPEAKER_08 33:18

Now he's changing, right?

SPEAKER_10 33:19

But I'm just gonna say most deaf, that's what he was then. Anyway, uh we were talking about a couple weeks back about rappers that turned into actors. And I couldn't think of any that were any good, but he's actually been in a few movies and he's been fairly successful. This movie's definitely good. Right.

SPEAKER_08 33:35

I mean, I think the standard for most would be Ice Cube. Yes, although I know there's some that have exceeded, but I mean I think because of you look at Friday and whatnot.

SPEAKER_10 33:47

Well, Will Smith, I guess, is the gold standard in that. Okay. You can't see the look he just gave. No, no, seriously. I mean, I know he's he's got his personal as far as an actor knows. You're right. I guess he's in front of him. The platinum standard. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 34:04

Okay. I fear enough.

SPEAKER_10 34:06

It's almost like he's more of an actor than he is a rapper. Right. And not not almost like it is. That's that's the fact. He used to be known for like parents just didn't understand. He was like now it's like I think he's won a couple Oscars, right? One? So, yeah, he's done a few things. Uh, no other rapper that I know of has won an Oscar.

SPEAKER_08 34:27

No.

SPEAKER_10 34:27

So anyway. That's our aside about that, but yes, uh as an aside, rappers who become actors, they're usually terrible. But uh Most Deaf is good and uh Will Smith. I want to say Nice Cube is honorable mention, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_08 34:44

Just to piggyback on that, I want to say Samuel L. Jackson made a comment where he didn't want to act, if it was, I believe it was Sam.

SPEAKER_10 34:51

With the rapper? Right. Yeah, because after a while there was like they're just putting him in there to boost their record sales. They don't have any dedication to the craft. You could tell. Um LL Cool J? No. It's terrible. Uh what's the other one? Uh Ludicrous? No. Uh he's I think he maybe tries, but he got away with uh with Fast and Furious or whatever. Yeah, he gets away with who's the one from um Ant-Man T.I.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 35:17

Boo. He was also in the one with uh Denzel Washington, the gangster one.

SPEAKER_08 35:22

American Gangster?

SPEAKER_10 35:23

Terrible. Yeah, he was an American gangster. He played his little cousin or his little nephew or whatever. I want to be just like you, Uncle Frank. Who was in who was in Belly?

SPEAKER_08 35:33

I mean, we're getting way off track, but that was a rapper too. Belly. Oh, uh DMX.

SPEAKER_10 35:40

See? And uh Nas, see, Eminem, they're all terrible. So anyway, I give it up to Most Deaf. That's all I'm saying. That's all we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_08 35:50

That's what we're saying, right? I think he proved himself.

SPEAKER_10 35:52

As a related aside, but this is actually more into the actual thing. So Most Deaf, and I forgive me for not using his current name, and Jack Black are the main leads, basically, for all intents and purposes. Correct. Jack Black, I was thinking when I watched this movie again for this podcast, I can't think of a time where I've watched him on screen and been disappointed. He's he has kind of a limited range, and most people would think if like if if a person plays the same character over and over again, which he kind of does, basically himself. He would be like, Oh, I'm sick of this dude. But whenever I see him, it's like there's something about his energy, it's like I just love that dude. Uh he's contagious. I've only seen him in one serious role. That was the one where he played that guy that murdered the old lady. You ever see that?

SPEAKER_08 36:38

That was actually a good movie.

SPEAKER_10 36:39

That was a good movie. He kind of it's kind of more of a serious role.

SPEAKER_08 36:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 36:42

I haven't seen him anything. Yeah. I haven't seen anything serious other than that. But everything I've seen him in, he always basically plays himself. You know, you know, Nacho, he plays like a Spanish version of himself. It's like it's and you would get tired of that, but I was noticing in this movie. I really just like he's so good.

SPEAKER_09 37:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 37:00

Is the scene in this movie where he's uh uh he they're doing graffiti, they're they're making uh towards the beginning of the film, right? Yeah, uh to advertise the wares of this this uh was it Fats Waller? Fats Waller, right. Uh they're making a big uh mural, a Fats Waller that has the name of the store they work at the most deaf works at. Right. Right. It's advertising. And Jack Black's whole shtick about you see these kids, these kids did this. There's like a ladder, and he's clearly caught, but it's just his soul schtick is like, I love that dude. He's he's hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 37:37

He is, it's perfect. It fits that whole movie and and them.

SPEAKER_10 37:41

Yeah. I haven't seen any of these recent ones, they kind of feel like cash crabs to me. If I'm just being and I don't I'm just speaking off the top of my head. I don't know. I'm not um was it Jumanji and something he did with a rock?

SPEAKER_08 37:55

I was surprised, and that's for a future, but I was surprised and Jumanji actually did a good job. But uh I know you're going like Minecraft.

SPEAKER_10 38:03

Minecraft, that's the one I was thinking of. Yeah. He was like, well, you know, I need a I need a paycheck, so does he?

SPEAKER_08 38:09

But we won't go into that.

SPEAKER_10 38:11

I I mean I can't I can't fault them. Never count another person's money, right?

SPEAKER_08 38:16

Well, if you're still hot, keep going, right?

SPEAKER_10 38:18

You don't exactly because you never know when you're gonna be and you're gonna fall off.

SPEAKER_08 38:21

So here today, gone tomorrow.

SPEAKER_10 38:23

So anyway, the premise of the movie is like, yeah, so it's uh VHS, an old school video rental place, which I something about that is nostalgic too. It's like I remember when I got my first money when I was 16, 17, got your first little job. What did I do? Go to the video place and rent all the friggin' horror movies and all the I mean them because my parents would be like, Well, if you earned your money, you can get whatever you want, because they wouldn't let me watch that stuff if I was in the house.

SPEAKER_08 38:50

I think I spoke on the last podcast how I used to work at or maybe I did. Oh, right. I don't think I did. Actually, I was trying to give a bio, but in my I was saying how I worked at a video store. So I mean, there's a nostalgia that there's a a comfort in that.

SPEAKER_10 39:05

Yeah. You know? Uh I almost wish I could come back. Uh not almost, I do.

SPEAKER_08 39:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_10 39:11

I mean There's something about that about going to a video store on a Friday night or whatever and picking out three or four movies or whatever to watch over the weekend. Now it's like it's almost too easy. It's just like just roll out of bed and you hit your remote and you're there's whatever movie you want. It's like there's something about getting up and socializing and I don't know, getting fresh air. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 39:33

It's funny you said that because there's this is an aside. The other night trying to watch a movie, my wife was looking for I had never seen This Is for Future, but uh the movie Body Heat. But she looked for it online. Nowhere. Wow. But guess who has it in his library? So of course. And that's the thing I know we always talk about physical media, but I still that's the reason, one of the reasons I love it.

SPEAKER_10 39:56

Yeah. Because you can't trust I can go to my personal library and pull it out. And then probably get extras and commentary and some of these things. So anyway.

SPEAKER_08 40:07

Right. But this is a side, but that's again, and it kind of goes along with what we're talking about with these.

SPEAKER_10 40:12

Right. It's it's goes right along because, like I said, the part of the part of the reason why I like the movie is because of the nostalgia aspect of it. Uh the whole um I I feel like there's a thread in the movie running through of uh cherishing the time you have. I I could be reading a lot into this, but the whole thing about like there's a culture you have, and then it's things are great, and then you kind of the time passes, and those things are theirs are washed away. The theme of the movie is like Fats Waller. They're talking about how in in the 30s or whatever he was this you know famous piano player back when people could play piano and people loved that. I was I just that kind of blows my mind.

SPEAKER_08 40:49

I think he was a jazz singer too, right? Or something?

SPEAKER_10 40:51

Jazz, yeah, jazz pianist. Um back when jazz was popular, that's not a thing now at all, it obviously. But that but they're talking about how uh it elevated black people back then. It was like a point of pride and you know, um way for them to make money, and now that's that way of life is gone, and it's been paved over by all these other things that have happened since then. And the video store is kind of like that too. It's dying off, and and that way of life is going away too, and so there's that they're kind of at that nexus point between what was the past and what's gonna be the future.

SPEAKER_08 41:26

So to piggyback off all that, because you were gave a little synopsis at the beginning how Jack Black in a form of a protest goes to this plant and he basically gets infected with some kind of radiomagnetic. And he demagnetizes all the tapes in the store. That's why they have to to recreate these movies.

SPEAKER_10 41:51

I wasn't really clear about that part. I think he's a junkyard owner or something like that, but there's like a power plant next to him.

SPEAKER_08 41:57

He lives in a junkyard. There's a power plant.

SPEAKER_10 42:00

Yeah, but he's trying to they want to protest it because he says my employee at one point, talking about that guy that helps them film. Yeah. That's why I say he works there or something, or he owns it or something. He says, My employee, that guy that was had the little helmet on, the right whatever, that potato sifter or whatever on his head. He says, My employee, or so I don't want to make out with my employee. So anyway, but there's a power plant next to them.

SPEAKER_08 42:25

Right. And they're trying to protest, and that's when he gets some shenanigans and gets Right.

SPEAKER_10 42:30

He tries to break into the power plant to sabotage it. Uh he and Mostaff try to break in. Mostaff thinks better of it and then bails out in the middle of it. Jack Black goes by himself and there's a mishap. And he then when he goes.

SPEAKER_08 42:46

Right. So when he goes in the story, demagnetizes basically erased all the tapes.

SPEAKER_10 42:50

Yeah, he goes back in the store.

SPEAKER_08 42:51

But my point of what I was gonna bring up is that as you watch this movie and they're recreating these films, uh, it all starts really with Mia Farrow's character because she has never seen Ghostbusters. Right. So they basically scramble to get this film made to get her to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 43:09

Right.

SPEAKER_08 43:10

And it's from there where she's like, oh, it was so good, you got more, and then they rent it out basically.

SPEAKER_10 43:16

Oh, but you're cutting your past you had going past Ghostbusters, them filming Ghostbusters. Oh god, that was that was a whole I mean the the I can't even describe it really, but they have these fake guns with the little Christmas streamers. They're supposed to be like the rays. And they go into the actual library and they're filming, and there's actual customers that are like, What are you doing?

SPEAKER_08 43:35

They would consider that gorilla filmmaking.

SPEAKER_10 43:38

Gorilla, yeah, very much gorilla filmmaking.

SPEAKER_08 43:40

Because they didn't have license, they just went and started shooting.

SPEAKER_10 43:42

I think there was an old lady who's supposed to be that ghost, and they were just like they didn't tell her anything, they're just like filming around her, and she's like, What are you doing? She's looking at him like all crazy.

SPEAKER_08 43:51

So, yes, I I sped it up, but um What I liked about the film too, because when they make these films there seemed like the Community was at odds, but it brought the whole community together. Right. Even the thugs and all that. They all clamored.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

Right.

SPEAKER_08 44:07

And as we see as the movie goes on, there's long lines. You get these what they call them? Sweeted.

SPEAKER_10 44:12

Sweeted movies. Right. So Mia Farrow's character wants to see Ghostbusters. They she is dispatched by Danny Glever, who's actually gone away. He's off trying to uh spy on the DVD store, rental store that's out. Reconnaissance to yeah, to see how they do their business so he can take those ideas and apply them to his own business. He's away. He asked Mia Faro to watch his business while he's gone because he doesn't trust Jerry, is his name.

SPEAKER_08 44:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_10 44:38

Uh Jack Black's character. He doesn't trust him. Mia Farrow comes in on that premise, but decides she's going to get Ghostbusters, and then they they don't want to tell her they've ruined the store. So that's the premise.

SPEAKER_08 44:49

Exactly. He's also going to reconnaissance because he's been told that if he doesn't he can't he has money that if he can't generate so much revenue, they're going to take the building from him. Right. And he's going to have oh they'll buy it from him and he has to go live in the projects. Right. He's trying to avoid that.

SPEAKER_10 45:07

And they're going to make I don't remember exactly. I think it's got a community center or something like that. They're going to do something fairly positive with it. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, he he decides, no, let me like try to figure out how to get my business going so I can stave this off. But that doesn't.

SPEAKER_08 45:22

But yeah, it that's it's cool as the movie uh envelops how the community comes together. Right. And all these people love the sweeter version of these movies. Right, right. It's it's cool because you get to see the community come together. And that's you know the nice little off-kilter quirkiness of this film, like you were saying.

SPEAKER_10 45:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 45:40

It's just such a joy when you watch it.

SPEAKER_10 45:44

But it's a definition of a feel-good movie because in real life that would never happen, of course. But uh Mia Farrow rents their fake version of Globebusters, and she likes it. Oh, she loves it. Uh under the premise that Jack Black says, well, she's never seen the movie, so she won't even know. And most of us, like, she knows what we look like. What are you talking about? But she ends up liking it for whatever reason, and then next thing you know, the word spreads, and like you said, everyone in the community comes in and they want to rent movies, and uh, so they start having to make movies on demand for what depending on what customers order. Right. It's different than the way we did it. It was like you got the movies that day, but with them, it's like you order the movie and you pick it up the next day. Right. So they're doing these super fast shoots or whatever. I don't know how they're pulling that out, but it's funny.

SPEAKER_08 46:29

And they're remaking everything you can think of, classics and uh what are the movies they did?

SPEAKER_10 46:33

They do Ghostbusters? Charlie something with uh Muhammad Ali. They do Space Odyssey, 2001 Space Odyssey.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Oh yeah, they did. Um I wonder. They do a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_10 46:45

Yeah, they did a ton of movies. But it's like it's a quick montage, I can't remember too many of them off the top of my head, but I remember 2001 Space Odyssey, uh Rumble in the Jungle or something like that. Might have done that.

SPEAKER_08 46:59

I'm trying to it's but the point of it is that they they get the even the community comes to help film those things, so they're a part of all of it.

SPEAKER_10 47:07

Yeah, oh um rush hour. Yes, that's right. That's how they get Melanie Diaz because they're doing a rush hour, there's a kissing scene, he doesn't want to kiss his employee, so his employee quits, by the way. This movie sucks, and he walks out. Uh they they try to recruit this really hot woman, and she says, No, you can't, I'm not gonna do it because she knows it's bullshit. But my my sister back there, she's not doing anything, and and she comes out and she's so good. I I've never seen her in anything. Even now, when I watch it again, I was like, I don't recognize her in anything. I I know I know you're saying she's been in some things, but I don't recognize her.

SPEAKER_08 47:42

She's very selective from what I've seen her act, but I mean, yeah, she that was basically the first time I'd ever seen her as well.

SPEAKER_10 47:49

But she's a perfect foil for Jack Black and you know Most Def in the whole refrigerator. You know, I I was in a play and I played a refrigerator and she's like showing them and I blink my eyes, that's what you see the light, and most def's going, Oh yeah, that's great. Like humoring her, they have no choice, so they have to bring her in, but she turns out to be a big benefit for them. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_08 48:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 48:10

Yeah. So the basic premise of that is um, so then the whole community wants these movies. Um, as I recall, um uh Danny Glover's character sees an eye, I think it's like an old friend or something, some neighborhood friend who owns the DVD store. It's like more up to date, it's more glossy. He's got like a big projector up on the ceiling so they can show movies in the store. And Danny Glover's take little in the store taking notes, and that's a funny scene too.

SPEAKER_08 48:39

Right. Um, it's basically they don't they can't call it, but it's blockbuster.

SPEAKER_10 48:44

Yeah. Okay. Big time. I forget what they called it. Yeah. Well there was a big time video or something like that.

SPEAKER_08 48:49

Yeah, I want to say it's it basically modeled after Blockbuster. Right. Because the look of it, when you will see it, you go, oh yeah, that's block. Yeah. For you kids who never had that opportunity.

SPEAKER_10 48:58

It's was it like that in real life? I don't remember. Oh, yeah. I mean Yeah, it was like that. Because there were a billion independent little video stores, of course. Oh, 100%. And then there was Blockbuster and Hollywood Hollywood video, yeah. The big chains, and they kind of I don't think they really ate up the mom and pop. I mean, there's a lot of mom and pop's out there still.

SPEAKER_08 49:18

Well, there was such a fervor back then for like you said, then of going to video stores. You if you couldn't get it there, you'd go to the mom and pop. There was always something around the corner.

SPEAKER_10 49:27

Right.

SPEAKER_08 49:28

So you could find something.

SPEAKER_10 49:29

You could see that um he sees that in the blockbuster, whatever the blockbuster knockoff is, they have like snacks and stuff, and then you cut back to his store and they got like random food on the camera. Right. So he's trying to use those things, but going back to my original point of history moving on, it it moves on regardless of what you do.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_10 49:50

So I think at some point he comes to accept the fact that he had his time. Fatswaller had his time back in the day, but you move on. You you have those things as positive memories, but you can't hold back time. You can't, you know, unfortunately avoid change. It just happens. But what you do is you just cherish the time you have, that the lesson that I took away from it, and you you hold on to those memories and you just move on to something more positive or whatever.

SPEAKER_08 50:15

Well, when he does come back to town, he tells the crew, hey, we're gonna switch, get rid of the video, we're gonna go to DVD, and they're like and he's comes in, he's shocked because he's just a long line, right? Right. I know that not to this won't ruin anything, but if they do get in trouble for that eventually.

SPEAKER_10 50:30

Oh, yeah, that's right. So Gordon Weaver's character comes in and plays like the movie studio executive or something like that. Because they're pirates going to sue you, yeah. And so and so that yeah, so that's right. That's that's a good point. So in the plot point, everything's going really well. They got business out there down the block.

SPEAKER_08 50:45

They call it a goal of what he has to reach to maintain, staying there.

SPEAKER_10 50:49

To keep the building. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 50:51

And they're almost, they're basically there.

SPEAKER_10 50:52

And then Gordon Weaver comes and shuts. Slaps him down. Yeah. They literally run over all the tapes with like a well, yeah, what do you call it? A steamroller.

SPEAKER_08 51:00

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 51:02

And they're like, that's it. You know, we're done. So they decide to make one last movie, which we won't go into, but yeah, you can watch that and see how that ends from there. So but and I wanted to mention this is by is it Michelle or Michael Gondry?

SPEAKER_08 51:17

Michelle. Michelle, who did uh he I think Adaptation. Oh, yeah, Eternal Sunshine is a spotless mine. I think he wrote Adaptation.

SPEAKER_10 51:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:25

With uh the Nicolas Cage was a great.

SPEAKER_10 51:27

And you said this was after Eternal Sunshine. Yes. Yeah. So he already established himself. Right.

SPEAKER_08 51:33

So and I think having done Eternal Sunshine, which was critically acclaimed, I don't know commercially, but it established that it allowed allotted him to be able to make this smaller film. Right. Which is I think is just as good as Eternal. I mean, they're different movies. I'm not trying to but I think they're equally done well.

SPEAKER_10 51:51

What is that term? I I use the term magic, but there's something about his films that have this kind of fantasy feel to them, like this it's surreal kind of. So if you like that kind of thing, if you like Eternal Sunshine and the Spot Spotless Mine, then this is kind of in that wheelhouse in a in a bit of a way. In a way, it's a little bit more clear. There's no way this could really be.

SPEAKER_08 52:19

But it's a fun ride to take.

SPEAKER_10 52:21

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 52:22

Don't miss this ride.

SPEAKER_10 52:23

An adaptation to if the if he had if he was involved in that. That's another one's like it's just surreal. Like, how is this, you know? Yeah. There's two Nicholas Cages or whatever. And yeah. But yes, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

That's what's the one with um John Cusack and um being in John Malkovich. Did he do that? Um I know that's got the same kind of energy. It might be, he might have helped write it.

SPEAKER_10 52:45

Yeah. That's just a nutty thing. Like, I I can there's a portal into being into John Malkovich.

SPEAKER_08 52:50

John Malcolm's brain, right. That's just who thinks of that. These are future podcasts because as we talk, it helps us fuel for what we can come up with later.

SPEAKER_10 52:59

Right. I'm just putting this in the context of what you can expect from it as far as you know.

SPEAKER_08 53:04

It may seem a little like, do I really want to watch it? Yes, you want to watch it.

SPEAKER_10 53:07

Big time rewind, yeah. It's it's a small story, but it's bigger than what it seems at first. 100%.

SPEAKER_08 53:13

I get it. Yeah. Like I said, I I say quirky off kilter, but tons of fun. Yeah, you you won't regret watching the movie.

SPEAKER_10 53:21

Yes. And I would say for both of these movies as we wrap it up, is that they're both to me, they're both classic examples of feel-good movies. I'm not a really big like rom-com person or anything like that. I am. I know. I was dissing you in a way. It's all good. I'm just kidding. Um but for me, this is more like the type of thing that I could stomach as far as like I could I appreciate this kind of feel-good movie because it seems more grounded in reality and like just that it just has a warmer feeling to it. Like, um when you watch B. Kairi Wine, you just the help that like you said, the fact of the community coming together. That's something you can just like feel good about.

SPEAKER_09 54:03

Right.

SPEAKER_10 54:03

And um, these two guys who are devoted to Danny Glever, who's an older gentleman, they want to help him out. That's just you know, and Jack Black, he didn't even work there, and he just wants to help out because he's part of the community or he's friends of these guys. That's all that's just good feeling.

SPEAKER_08 54:18

Well, I mean, him and most deaf are best friends, basically.

SPEAKER_10 54:20

Yeah, but he doesn't have to do any of that stuff. It's no obligation for him to save the movie theater. I mean the the store, the video store. He doesn't even work there, so and as a matter of fact, uh Danny Glover's career is actively trying to get him to not be there.

SPEAKER_08 54:32

Because Jerry always ruins that there's scenes out. There's scenes in there where you can see, like, oh God.

SPEAKER_10 54:38

Yeah, this guy's a maniac. He's uh and same thing with Two Family House, it's like it's it's not your typical love story, but like it, you know, it's a feel-good story. I mean, in the end, you feel good about it, I think.

SPEAKER_08 54:52

I guess the because you're the the reader here, um, they're like reading good books, a nice book. And you're like very satisfied after you watch. Yeah, you know what I mean? They're very satisfying.

SPEAKER_10 55:04

Yes, exactly. It's a good word.

SPEAKER_08 55:06

Um yeah, I can't say enough for both. I I mean we said both two thumbs up and highly enjoyable. Definitely should watch both. Yes. Not saying back to back, but definitely put them in your uh watch them back to back.

SPEAKER_10 55:20

I don't know why not.

SPEAKER_08 55:21

Sure. I I mean, I guess.

SPEAKER_10 55:23

Different flavors, you know.

SPEAKER_08 55:24

Yeah, fair enough. But yes, definitely watch them. Yeah. They're worth your time. That's a wrap for today's movie reviews. Thanks for listening. And remember, if you like what you've heard, make sure you like, subscribe, and rate our show. Let's go get some ice cream.